Tuesday, June 17, 2008

The End is Near: Dreamlords


I fear our lives are in danger. Yes this post is a red threat. No nudity, no disturbing images, but it is a danger to your well being. Most of the cup have a shady internet past. Few escaped the clutches of Kings of Chaos. I believe I was one of the first to shout "No More! I will not take part in another age! I want my life back!" They were dark times, when we would wake up extra early just to spend our money before we got hit mid-morning. When we would mercilessly search for an unsuspecting victim or somebody's extra-account-cash-cow. Hitting refresh on our KoC page we kept minimized every 15 minutes. Sometimes we'd hit refresh every 10.

This is why I feel a strong hesitation as I type. I worry what kind of damage this one post can do. But only time will tell. It's just after 2:00am and I just got finished playing Dreamlords: The Reawakening. I say finished, but I don't really mean finished. I've got workers in buildings right now creating and training and growing my empire. Every twenty minutes a non-believer is being converted towards my cause. I'll give him housing and put him to work. In the morning when I wake up I'll probably have 24 more just like him ready to create, mend, or die for me. This is Kings of Chaos on steriods filled with with msg. This is not a healthy thing to consume. It's a MMO-RPG-RTS with a 3D game client and a web-based management system. That's right, you can play in places you're not supposed to. You can start playing before you even download the game client. And as far as I can tell it's free to play.

Some of you might make it. You can tell others to run far away and hide. I fear I may already be lost. Right now I just hired another worker to my Training Ground and was excited to find my expedition size increased by about 2.53. I fear dark times ahead.

16 comments:

Lorigga said...

wow, it's a good thing I'm leaving for a week...but sadly I already made an account...we'll see how all this goes...

I will say one thing, the KoC interface lent itself to playing while working...whereas this interface is too nice to pass as work related.

it still may be the second coming yet. Those KoC days were different times though. We didn't have a blog then either...hmmm....what's up with this pay for tribute stuff too?

I also noticed the game will "officially release" soon, indicating accounts will be wiped.

Which race did you choose?

defmoose said...

Well, Tribute goes towards buying extra gear for your dreamlord and army i believe. Since the game is free to download and play, paying real money for tribute as a microtransaction is their way of trying to make money off the game. the official release is when people are allowed to pay for tribute.

i think they did the wipe already on the 12th and are giving testers a head start, but I'm not 100% on that (only 98.9%). I'm playing Nihilim and we need to get 100 shards so we can make a guild (ie convergence) so that we can do pvp.

Lorigga said...

oh nos...i'm looking at the interface! why do I have a baaaaadddd feeling about all of this...

Cyrusse said...

Did you all hear that whooshing flushing gurgling sound? Yeah, that's not murlocs, that's my productivity going down the toilet. Guess I'll have to go look for it in Long Beach...

Black Crow said...

what the fuck! your productivity is in long beach sewers? cool, I could easily get it back for you. well wait a second.....well see about all this. as for the game, I never played Kings of Chaos, yall told me about it and I knew that a game of that nature wasnt for me. I have played games like that (FF11!!!) and lost my soul to the point where I have little desire to play another game that requires daily maintenance, let alone 3 times daily. I guess I could check it out for kicks but I doubt that I will. Whats up with good ol fashion WCIII? Am I the only one that remembers we can finally play together.

Lorigga said...

we should get a W3 session in soon! I would be down for tonight but am not sure if you all already have a WoW session planned....Id also be down for CS...eh, TF2 as well =)

defmoose said...

ff11 is not the same. *shudder*
not the same at all....
*checks on his workers*

Lorigga said...

servers were down last night, was there a wipe? Or was it like you said, beta testers got to start off first?

Cyrusse said...

pretty sure it wasn't a wipe. my little guys still seem to be here today. little bastards won't make me any new buildings yet... *gets lazy peon stick*

Lorigga said...

And I think there needs to be an explanation here. See, we need not retract from FFXI, it's was a whole other monster (I did live with Crow during that period of his life) and loosing whole weekends with nothing to show but a loss in XP due to Gob trains...well...that's pretty horrific...

But KoC...I'll just explain the experience, especially since I did end up joining a guild-type-thing and kind of moved up ranks...even started participating in the discussion boards for coordinated sabs...until the great war where my group shot waaaayyy over their heads! Which lead to in-fighting and disbanding of the group..

you see, I played KoC my last year of college. When I started, I would occasionally check my account through the day, make sure to spend my money to avoid sabbing (having spys break my weapons) and move on. It was occasional fun.

Then I rose ranks...I started having to check more often because people would hit my stuff more...other players started getting better (you're always battling with players above and below you in the ladders).

Then after a piont I realized I had to participate in a third party clicking tool to get more resources and move up ranks...I don't want to explain the mechanic but we'll just say it added a good thirty minutes to my daily interaction with the game (already at a few hours per day...easily)

by this point, I'm checking my account every hour. I get up at three am to pee and spend my money. If I hung out with friends and hadn't checked my account for a specific period of time...I just knew I was attacked...and would fall down the ladder....

I remember when Cyrusse and Def went on vacation...I took over Cyrusse account and shot her up the ranks...

yeah, it became a HUGE problem when I had two accounts. My main, and another for messing with the lowbies on the ladders. I had learned nasty tactics and wanted to see them play out on unsuspecting victims....people would talk shit...I hit them. If they got out of hand, I hit them with my other account.

man...I need to stop thinking about that...makes me want to play...

Lorigga said...

just realized the point of my post...that game brought out a culmination of negative behavior/thought patterns I never new I had.

In that game, it felt good to be mean and acquire power..and relish in other's misery, especially because so many people were emotionally attached to their accounts. This sinister part of me loved tugging at that connection...add to that this compulsive aspect that bled into my social life (thats where it was like FFXI)

Never knew I had that in me....never...before KoC that is...if anything it was a learning experience about myself.

Fundamentally, the fact that it was soooo easy to play at school and work...anywhere, is what made that game another form of evil. It was just a big black spreadsheet, could easily be work. Yeah....

defmoose said...

Yeah I definitely never felt I was being evil in ffxi, whereas sometimes in KoC I felt like a bastard and I loved it. I remember having problems with certain players who were fucking with me, and then asking Lorenzo or Dan to do some "work" for me. Needless to say, I wasn't really bothered by them anymore and was glad I had friends who could take care of situations that I couldn't. I don't think my experience was ever as bad as Lorigga's though. I never got the third party clicking program and I never really participated in the clans I was a part of. Perhaps thats why it was easier for me to let go.

So far I haven't yet had that same urgency/anxiety in dreamlords that I had in KoC. That could be because I haven't done any pvp yet. But it could be because this is a different beast entirely. Of course I do intend to check it out...

defmoose said...

Yeah now that I think of it the main diff between a game like ffxi and a game like KoC is the feelings you have when you're not playing it. When I wasn't on ff I wasn't thinking about how my character was doing because I didn't need to. When I wasn't playing KoC I was worrying if someone had hit me (attacked and looted me). I was worrying if my gold had stockpiled too high making me a juicy target. I was worrying if people were scouting me (checking out my fortifications), if people were sabbing me (breaking my equipment). It was just stressing out over numbers, which I imagine is what playing the stock market could be like hehe.

So far there's no stress while not playing DLs, but I do find myself wondering if my research at my buildings is done yet. Perhaps I shouldn't have chosen the management heavy Nihilim lol.

Lorigga said...

What (dasuprbob) was my officer =)

I remember one time he hit some guy who got a buddy to hit him...then I hit both guys...and then the lowbie guy just bitched...good times..

I stopped when I had to really depend on my clan/group. Below the 100 mark on the ranks was where it was a considerable group effort to push higher. Then my group got involved in a war where I was sabbed daily...I lost a lot of weapons in that war and didn't even have a part in starting it. That blew. I think if I had a group I could really coordinate and depend on, I would have kept playing...but there was no room for growth...well beyond that, staying at number one meant staying online ALL the time. You could see who was online and who wasn't...

OHHH! that was my favorite! Hitting someone when they were online! Cause chances were they would be selling off weapons to pay for upgrades! I made a few really good hits that way. =)

Lorigga said...

and do you guys remember probing?

I had a crazy elf lowbie that would kill off soldiers more than anything. I probed ALL the time with him...an act highly looked down upon in the higher ranks...

I never probed with the Lorigga account....but that was Istu's tactic...

hehehe

Black Crow said...

well I could see how the experience would be different but I still feel the issue of how often one needs to play is very comparable, and not for me. As for thinking about characters when not playing, man I did that all the time! For one thing I was always curious about the auction house and how things were faring, not to mention who would be online when I came home from work. Depending on who was on, and more importantly, what they were doing it would mean either I could make progress in the game, or not. So if someone was on while I wasnt on that was bad, I prefered to see people come on while I was on so I could hit them with frantic tells like "PLEASE HELP NEED WHM/BLM TO COMPLETE PT". I guess I didnt have to be thinking about those things, its not like there was anything I could be doing if I were online, but I did think about them. Plus towards the end I was always online dude, even when I wasnt online. I had a bot, so I was constantly wondering if it had gotten stuck, if a GM may have noticed it, how many fish I had made, whether or not it had run out of bait. I think I left it over the weekend one time! When your playing the game when your not playing the game Id say its evil even someone didnt personally get hurt. Although people were effected, my sweep of the fish market changed our economy for a long time, pretty much me and Rhudwan pwned. Good times. Glad I put it to rest though. I hope yall are having fun with Dreamlords.